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  • Greg Collier 5:05 pm on April 24, 2011 Permalink | Reply  

    A partnership with WeGoLook brings peace of mind to classifieds 

    Geebo is becoming known as the online classifieds site that cares about the safety of its customers. We don’t allow personal ads, which are often used to solicit prostitution and engage in human trafficking. We don’t allow guns to be sold, nor do we permit drug transactions. And all ads on Geebo are reviewed before being published, a step that’s meant to keep suspicious activity off the site.

    Now, we’re taking another step to further ensure that the online transactions that appear on Geebo are conducted safely. We’ve partnered with WeGoLook.com, an Oklahoma-based start-up that offers a service to physically inspect an item for sale and provide the buyer with a report that offers a true, independent evaluation of that item.

    It’s a concept that’s a perfect fit for what Geebo is striving to create: a safe haven for online classifieds ads. The “lookers” who perform the inspections for WeGoLook are located across the country, ready to visit a seller and take a look at the “vintage” car, the “luxury” boat, the “slightly used” computer or “rare collectible” to truthsquad the description in the ad.

    In any other scenario, a buyer seeking some reassurances about such a deal would either have to incur the expense of visiting the seller to inspect the item himself – a potentially costly approach – or find a friend who lives near the seller and is willing to check it out.

    The WeGoLook service provides a remedy for a pain point in online transactions, trying to figure out if the product being sold on the other end is really what the seller says it is. Is “vintage” another word for “old and rusty,” when it comes to describing a car. And when it comes to the “luxury” boat, the buyer and seller might have different definitions of what “luxury” really means.

    There’s a certain amount of trust that goes into conducting an online transaction with a stranger but, as we’ve seen in too many unfortunate incidents, the person on the other end isn’t always the most trustworthy. Geebo has worked hard to make the Internet a safer place and the partnership represents an important step toward making the online marketplace safer.

    I’m excited about connecting Geebo customers with WeGoLook and hope that many of them find the service to be an invaluable tool that makes their online shopping experience that much better.

     

  • Greg Collier 7:23 am on March 16, 2011 Permalink | Reply  

    My challenge to craigslist: Keep criminals off your site 

    soap-boxLast week, I penned an open letter to my counterparts in the classified ad business, challenging them to follow me in imposing new policies to make their sites safer. (Press release)

    Not surprisingly, none of them has yet to respond to my letter. After all, the changes that I’m suggesting are not easy ones for the site owners to make. Ridding their sites of personal ads and other adult-oriented categories that run amok with criminal activity could impact their bottom lines.

    But those changes could also save lives. And in my opinion, saving a life is more important than making a buck.

    Of course, this is not a new effort. The horn has been sounded many times in the past as the leader in these sites – craigslist – has been put into the spotlight over the criminal activity that has been prevalent on that site, with only a tool for others to “flag” posts as a means of keeping the site safe. Just a few weeks ago, the AimGroup, publishers of the Classified Intelligence Report, called craigslist a “cesspool of crime” and posted details of the crimes that have been linked to the site – from murders and assaults to robberies and prostitution.

    It may be easy to point fingers at craigslist, seeing how the site is the biggest in the online classifieds business, but it’s not the only one turning a blind eye to some of the criminal activities on its site. Change.org recently called out backpage.com for reports of teenage prostitution that originated on that site.

    For several years now, I’ve been that “crazy guy” in the corner screaming about the elephant in the room. But, now that there is a conversation going on about Internet safety, the time is right for this “crazy guy” to once again wave his red flag. It’s not enough to warn users to be careful while interacting with people they meet on classifieds sites. Site owners need to do their parts to deter criminals from making it so easy to lure in victims.

    My goal is to get other classified site owners to join me in an effort to establish best practices in consumer safety. In the long run, it’s good for the industry. But more importantly, it’s good for the consumers. These are our users. Without them, we don’t have a business and we don’t have any income.

    The Wild West days of the Internet are over. It’s time for those of us who operate sites on the Internet to take responsibility for what we’re allowing on our sites. More importantly, it’s time for us to fix the areas that are broken, to allow our humanity to supersede our economic interests so that we can collectively save lives, prevent robberies and rape, halt human trafficking, and stop other scams and illicit activities from occurring.

    Anything less is unacceptable.

    And while the owners of the other classified sites out there – craigslist included – have chosen to ignore my cries for change, I’ll continue to stand on that soapbox – just as I’ve been doing for years – trying to bring some responsibility to the online classified ads business.

    I’d rather be the “crazy guy” in the corner who can sleep at night knowing that I’m doing everything I can to make the Internet a safer place than to be the guy who collects the money at the expense of the innocent victims who found themselves at the hands of a killer – a killer who had a key to an unruly place on the Internet where criminals are welcomed.

     

    • Tiffany Husted 3:31 pm on March 16, 2011 Permalink

      I cannot fathom why these people would not want to make such a significant and obvious change. It makes me ill inside that they do not care about people’s safety and lives to make a few changes to their sites and operations.

    • Peter Franklin 12:35 am on March 17, 2011 Permalink

      From what i gather, craigslist already does quite a bit to screen their ads. Yes, they has the erotic services ads which ran for quite some time. Unfortunately, what was not recognized is that craigslist fully cooperated with legal authorities in the pursuit of criminals around those ads. You think those providers of illicit services or gone? I doubt it, they are probably now further eluding law enforcement or operating elsewhere. I guess I want to applaud your efforts, but cannot help but think you are trying to generate buzz around your site and elevate yourselves to the level of craigslist whereas I suspect they are far more successful than Geebo. Go ahead and correct me if I am wrong.

    • Greg Collier 7:57 am on March 18, 2011 Permalink

      Before addressing anything, I want to reiterate that our call to action is extended to all online classified sites. Human trafficking is an industry wide epidemic that must be fought collectively. Now, upon your suggestion, allow me to correct your shiny spin on Craigslist’s past. The only screening Craigslist provides, and has ever provided, must be undertaken and enforced by its users. A post goes live immediately, with no review by a Craigslist staff member. The plethora of illegal activity that has gone on, largely uninterrupted, is indicative of the failure of their “review process.” Cooperation with authorities is relative when it could be legally compelled. And yes, we are generating buzz about Geebo…because a safe, secure online classified site that cares about its consumers is worth buzzing about. We hope you agree!

    • Randy 1:49 pm on March 27, 2011 Permalink

      I recently saw your comment on a Times Standard article, linking to your blog post and open letter, and have to disagree with pretty much absolutely everything you said.

      First, your claim that sites should be responsible for the actions of their users. Huh? If I make a telephone call and convince some old lady that she’s won the lottery and needs to send me a check, is the telephone company responsible? Should the telephone company have monitored my phone call, scanned it for keywords, and reported it to the police? Or maybe the telephone company should have delayed my call until it was reviewed? Claiming that carrying third-party-generated traffic gives you a responsibility for monitoring and filtering it is utterly absurd, as well as illegal (common carriers were declared responsibility-free a long time ago).

      Filtering ads is not only wrong, it’s impractical. Maybe your useless site has so few postings you can hire a team of people to scan every one of them, but for any useful site, it’s not practical.

      Second, you talk about “adult” ads, then mention housing scams and similar, an obvious attempt at implicating them in many things they are unrelated to. Despite your wording, it is obvious that eliminating “adult” ads does not in any way relate to scams. Only slimy politicians and pr people do stuff like that. If you need to try to trick people to make a claim, you shouldn’t be making it.

      Third, despite some fuzzy happy delusional christian idea that adult activities do not exist, they do. People try to find other people to date. People have sex with other people. In many places, including in this country, people legally perform sexual activities for money. Despite what Alabama would like, people sell “adult” items too. What do you hope to accomplish by attempting to prevent people posting these ads? Every negative thing you mention will still go on regardless of what your classified site does, but you’ll drive off your legitimate users.

      Do you really think some murderer/rapist/whatever is going to stop murdering people because they can’t post a classified ad? Did murders not exist before the internet? “I want to rape and kill someone, but waiting in the bushes is way too much work, so since I can’t post a classified ad, I’m going to take up knitting instead.”? That’s just as idiotic as the people who think banning guns on school grounds will keep school shootings from happening, possibly more so.

      I could go on, but I have useful things to do with my day. However, before doing them, I will be emailing craigslist and every other site I imagine you might have sent your open letter to, with a letter requesting they ignore anything you may say to them.

      –Randy
      (Who has somehow never murdered, raped, or scammed anyone, nor been murdered, raped, or scammed, despite using “unsafe” classified ad sites for a decade and a half or so)

    • Greg Collier 7:14 pm on March 29, 2011 Permalink

      Your comment is one reason why I love the internet and the First Amendment. Where else could we have such a quick, furious exchange of ideas? Geebo, however, recognizes that with such freedom comes responsibility and that is where our policies are derived from.

      Your phone carrier example is an interesting one. Sure, phone carriers are blame free when their customers are unfortunately scammed, but it doesn’t mean they should facilitate or accommodate individuals wishing to utilize their services for illegalities. Those who want to commit a crime are going to do so. However, if Geebo can prevent that crime from being directed at their users or preempt its commission entirely, even once, we will consider ourselves successful.

      Geebo does not ignore the fact that “adult” activities take place. In fact, we are all for it. However, when it comes to love connections online there are sites, such as Match.com and eHarmony.com, that are more suited for the job. The reason over a million people use these outlets are because their private information is protected and fellow users are screened. It is a matter of prioritizing what is important to you as a company.

      Just like you are entitled to your opinion, we are entitled to ours. Where you seem willing to accept the status quo, we are not. There is no right or wrong, just different. We are proud of our approach and, in the interest of internet user safety and security, we will continue to suggest its application to other classified sites.

    • bob gomez 3:46 pm on March 30, 2011 Permalink

      For years the police tolerated street walking prostitution on El Cajon Blvd and they still do. We neighbors knew this would never be tolerated in La Jolla or the neighborhoods of the rich and powerful.

      We would find used condoms on the street, hookers hanging out at bus stops with children and people going to work, Johns parked with hookers in the evenings, violent pimps hiding in the shadows. We have a high school that abuts El Cajon Blvd. NOT good for kids to be around that kind of thing.

      We begged the police for years to do something. Nothing happened for decades.

      Online ads for prostitution have cut the frequency of streetwalkers by 80% or more. Before online ads the only way for streetwalkers to access their clients was our streets.

      Online ads for hookers are the best thing that’s happened to our neighborhood for years.

      Hopefully online porn will put the porn shops and strip clubs in neighborhoods out of business too.

    • Greg Collier 10:45 am on April 1, 2011 Permalink

      Hi Bob,
      I don’t think you and I want separate things. You wanted the police to do their job in monitoring your streets to keep yourself, your family, and your friends, safe. Geebo wants online classified sites to do their job in monitoring their sites to keep yourself, your family, and your friends, safe. I am glad that prostitution has decreased in your community. However, Geebo is a community as well. Aren’t we equally entitled to want something done to clean up our online community? I believe so.

      The problem, whether online or out your front window, might never truly disappear. But this isn’t a reason to do nothing to prevent or preempt its facilitation. I trust you didn’t stop calling the police and requesting action to be taken. Similarly, we won’t either.

    • Hypnogal 12:33 pm on April 8, 2011 Permalink

      Randy. You are not a woman. Gee. Think that might have something to do with your “luck” so far?

    • Hypnogal 12:37 pm on April 8, 2011 Permalink

      As long as there are men who want it and can pay for it, and women who need the money, there will always be porn. Porn is defined by whatever is NOT sexually socially acceptable in public. This varies from generation to generation, culture to culture / nationality to nationality (different for different people). What is considered “porn” or “taboo” to some is not to others.

      Doesn’t make it right – or wrong. It just is.
      But – people dying in the aftermath is very wrong… on many levels.

      Killers don’t kill people – Craigslist kills people?
      Uh, I don’t think too many people wil be buying that bumper sticker anytime soon.

    • PL Frank 1:46 pm on April 8, 2011 Permalink

      Greg,

      What, specifically, does GEEBO do to keep your classifieds safe? What do you recommend other online classifieds sites do?

    • Greg Collier 4:53 pm on April 8, 2011 Permalink

      The ability to engage in, possess, distribute, and enjoy pornographic materials is a right protected by the First Amendment. The ability to traffic women, men, and children into that industry, or any other industry, is not. Geebo is not against porn, internet or print. We are against classified sites refusing to monitor themselves and facilitating human trafficking.

      We agree that your bumper sticker phrase is unlikely to catch on. However, we would suggest that one along the lines of “Safety First, Fun Second” just might.

    • Rob 8:11 am on April 11, 2011 Permalink

      To Greg Collier: You have every right to your opinion and can run your web site any way you want, within the frame of the law. However, you don’t have the right to try and force other websites to operate within the same bounds you do. As long as the other sites are operating within the boundary set by law, you should butt out. You are like politicians who try and push their religious values and morals on the rest of the country, regardless of what the law says. And that is where you will fail. We the people are not bound by yours or anyone else’s moral clause, we all run our lives based on our own moral code and that is how it should be. Run your website how you wish, but don’t try and generate interest in your site at the expense of other legally run websites.

    • Greg Collier 8:31 am on April 11, 2011 Permalink

      PL, thank you for your inquiry. Every submission that Geebo receives is reviewed by a member of our staff. Where other sites allow classified posts to go live immediately, we require them to pass our assessment before becoming accessible to others. This allows us to control what is being posted and ensures that all posts adhere to our guidelines.

      In addition to our thorough evaluative process, Geebo also removed our personal ads section a few months ago. Fortunately, we never had a problem with this section, which we largely attribute to our review system, but we decided to preemptively remove the category. We would rather be safe than sorry when it comes to our users.

      Our suggestion to other online classified sites is to employ an active monitoring process that keeps them safe. Yes, it does take time and it does take money…but aren’t those that keep your business running worth it? We think so.

    • Greg Collier 10:42 am on April 12, 2011 Permalink

      Rob,
      I admire your faith in the law, but most businesses prefer self-regulation to those of the governmentally mandated kind. Government intervention is the likely next step if other classified sites do not modify or enhance their security practices. Geebo surely isn’t expecting everyone to do as we say…but we are sharing our method because it has proven successful and pragmatic in preventing and preempting many evils that have found a home on internet classified sites.
      Admittedly, our decision is both a personal and business one. However, we are a business and, as such, entitled to educate the public about our practices while distinguishing ourselves from others. That is capitalism. Fortunately, our business decisions have translated into a safer online destination.

    • AnonymousB 11:28 am on June 23, 2011 Permalink

      though I wasnt murdered and never met him I was a victim of a sociopath from craigslist and it was horrible

    • AnonymousB 11:28 am on June 23, 2011 Permalink

      and he is an attorney to boot.

    • Carolina 5:48 pm on July 10, 2011 Permalink

      I’m glad to see that in this day and age SOMEBODY is guarding the gate. It’s hard for me to believe that some people are so offended by your attempts to make the internet a safer place that they would actually write letters to other sites asking them to ignore you and keep on keeping on with business as usual. We have become a nation of cold-hearted haters, I see this daily in comment sections all over the web, regardless of the site. I personally think ‘free speech’ has a LOT to answer for. I often wish that this was a right we did NOT have. Not really, but the right to free speech was originally meant to protect us if we said anything against our government. It was to ensure that we couldn’t be imprisoned by disagreeing with people, policy, etc. in/of our government. It was NOT meant to give us the freedom to ‘slander’ other people, to spew out venom in public, to allow bad people to lure others into possible bad positions, etc. I wish that the government could revoke many of the uses to which free speech could be applied. It now seems to be a monster, out of control. We are free to say nearly anything we would like to about nearly anyone. They have had to pass new legislation which makes it illegal to bully a child. There is NO protection for anyone over the age of 18, Reading the comments sections of newspapers, blogs, etc. has made me despair of humanity in general, and I don’t think things will ever get better, but continue to get worse. The concepts of morality, honesty and kindness are nearly relics of the past. WHAT are we teaching our children? Sorry for the rant.

  • Greg Collier 5:49 pm on February 4, 2011 Permalink | Reply  

    Cowboy Up 

    ownitDo you ever blame traffic, existent or fabricated, when you are late to a meeting, to work, or to dinner with your family? Sure. It doesn’t hurt anyone to transfer the fault of your delayed arrival to someone or something else. No harm. No foul. No repercussions.

    I hate this mentality. Unfortunately, I occasionally subscribe to this notion because it prevents me from upsetting my wife, my co-workers, and my friends with the reality that, yes, I stayed to work late, met with someone else first, or simply took the long way home to clear my head. Is that so bad? No. It isn’t. The failure is my inability to admit and take responsibility for my actions.

    It has become a codified practice to blame our shortcomings, failures, and mistakes on someone or something else before personally accepting responsibility. What is most disgusting is that this practice has infiltrated all levels of our existence. Politicians blame our nation’s teachers for the dismal performance of our schools but are simultaneously unwilling to allocate more money to education out of fears over jeopardizing their kickbacks or their likelihood of reelection. Instead of taking responsibility for such actions they blame their Congressional opponents or utilize the ultimate scapegoat, and silencer, national security. But we need national security… and now the crisis of accepting responsibility has been averted because the tax-paying constituents are on to a new subject.

    Office gossip is another example. “Did you hear Meg slept with James? No? Well…you didn’t hear it from me but here are all the details I know…” When Meg confronts you later about your willingness to share her intimacies, how will you respond? Obviously the safest option is to act surprised by the accusations and suggest that perhaps someone else, *cough* James, is sharing their indiscretions. Congratulations on avoiding the workplace drama that would likely ensue…but what kind of person can’t accept the repercussions of their actions? Most people. It is a pathetic reality that I am sick of both being a part of and witnessing.

    Daily, we make decisions through our actions and communications that affect one another. We hold an immeasurable amount of power that, like Superheroes, can either be used for good or evil. Regardless of what end of the spectrum you find yourself on, own up to the things you did, said, or failed to. Are people going to be upset by your candor? Possibly, but perhaps that is a good thing. If you cringe at the thought of accepting the consequences of your less than impressive behavior, holding yourself accountable may help you think twice before you speak or act.

    Cowboy up, people. It is about time.

     

  • Greg Collier 9:07 am on December 23, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    Tis the Season… 

    tistheseasonThis is a chaotic time of year. Between work and familial obligations, life seems to speed by when the holidays are upon us. We move so fast from one activity to the next that the adventure in getting to the destination fades into the background with last year’s must-have gadget. Is this hustle and bustle the antithesis of the holiday season? I used to think it was but have changed my holiday-inspired tune as of late.

    Starting in November and lasting until January 1st, I constantly hear people saying “tis the season.” They may be purchasing an extra expensive gift, ordering an extravagant dessert, or emptying their pockets into a collection jar when they spout off this holiday homonym. Such a sentiment used to bother me because it seems silly to only do or make over-the-top gestures once a year. Why not indulge in July? Or splurge in March? Why should a month and a holiday dictate when one chooses to treat themselves and their loved ones exceptionally special? The answer is easy…tis the season!

    You are busy the whole year through but only between Thanksgiving and New Year’s Day do we cram a multitude of family-oriented holidays requiring big meals, big spending, and big patience within a six week timeframe. A recitation of “tis the season” is the opportunity to acknowledge such an undertaking and appreciate the moment. The more “tis the season” moments we can have while prepping for the holidays, the better.

    I know the whole “tis the season” comment can seem and sound very cliché when used in practice. The beauty of this mantra, however, is that it doesn’t require an oral admission, just a silent pause for reflection and understanding for the greatness you are experiencing. It can be anywhere, at any time, with anyone, and about anything.

    The other great power of “tis the season” is that it can transcend religious and cultural barriers. If you think “tis the season” is about Jesus, it is. If you think “tis the season” is about the Maccabees, it is. And if you think “tis the season” is about togetherness and love, you are right too. Whatever season you feel like celebrating, “tis the season” fits.

    My wish for you all is to have plenty of “tis the season” moments in the coming days and in the coming year.

     

  • Greg Collier 1:41 pm on December 19, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    Hold Your Applause 

    not impressedCraigslist’s recent decision to quietly remove the adult category from their international locations is not one to be celebrated…yet. Though the category is gone, the problem is not. The issue is not having a specific category to post ads for prostitution within, it is about the absence of a review process that would prevent such solicitation from being published.

    Like many of Craigslist’s decisions, this one should raise a few suspicions. Why now? Why so quietly? When Craigslist suspended their U.S. adult section a few months ago they went to great lengths to make sure it was known. Placing the word “Censored” over the section caused quite a media stir. This time, unless you religiously read tech blogs, you are likely unaware that their adult category was nixed internationally. Perhaps their silence is quite a loud admission. They know they are not doing enough and they are not doing what is necessary to stop the illegal activity their site fosters.

    Craigslist’s decision comes on the eve of a U.S. House vote on the Senate-passed Domestic Minor Sex Trafficking Deterrence and Victims Support Act. This is a fantastic piece of legislation that will establish pilot programs to provide counseling, education, and basic support for sex trafficking victims. Additionally, this bill will mandate participation by all levels of law enforcement, including educating officers and prosecutors on how to identify, investigate and prosecute human traffickers. Craigslist is hoping to insert itself into this progressive conversation and ride the positive coattails of this pending law without implementing anything consistent with the law’s intent. This is not okay.

    This move by Craigslist also comes right before the Lifetime movie “The Craigslist Killer” debuts on January 3rd, 2011, at 9pm eastern. My guess is they are attempting to generate as much good press, though not deserved press, prior to their site’s reality being brought to life and into millions of homes for the public to truly see.

    You can’t cure a disease without acknowledging and treating the symptoms. A submission review process is the ONLY way to combat the presence of human trafficking on a classified site. Craigslist can remove as many categories as they want but until they employ a thorough review procedure that prevents ads from automatically going live on their site, nothing will change. Today on Craigslist, the sex trafficking continues…

    We at Geebo, albeit preemptively, removed our personal ads section so as to guarantee we would never have a problem with sex trafficking. We did this in conjunction with our thorough and manual review process that has been employed since the beginning. The extra time it takes is worth the lives of our users. This should be a no-brainer for any classified site.

    For Craigslist the decision to remove the adult category throughout the world is more about strategy than security. This is not a mentality to encourage.

    Hold your applause until Craigslist does something worth clapping for.

     

  • Greg Collier 8:04 am on December 5, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    Cheers to the Bold 

    borat-high-fiveGeebo has a lot to be thankful for. In the past year we have remained dedicated to our mission of providing an accessible, community focused classified site that prioritizes customer safety and security. Consistent with this pursuit, we preemptively removed our personal ads section more than two months ago. As a result of our thorough and comprehensive review process we had never had an issue with human trafficking, prostitution, or violence…and we never wanted too. Removing the personal ads section was the only way we could guarantee our users the type of security they have come to expect and the kind of safety we believe they deserve. Call us old fashioned but customer satisfaction, continued patronage, and life, is something we are thankful for.

    What else are we thankful for? We are glad you asked, and even more thrilled to answer. Olx.com, a widely popular international classified site, has joined Geebo on the short-list of sites that have removed their personals section. While Olx.com denies that their decision to terminate their personal ads is a result of sex trafficking or solicitation, their rationale for confiscating this category is not particularly relevant. What is important is that Olx.com and its worldwide audience is safer. For that, we are thankful.

    Geebo is also thankful for the optimism that Olx.com’s decision brings. Far too often classified sites proceed down the path of least resistance in the hopes of rising to a widely trafficked destination. Traffic is imperative to a classified site’s success…but the human trafficking that permeates sites similar to Craigslist.org and Backpage.com is intolerable. Every site that reforms their practices or begins with precautions in place renews Geebo’s faith in the power of social responsibility. Slowly, but surely, perhaps the “right” decision will become the only decision for classified sites.

    This holiday season Geebo would be honored for you to join us in raising your class and toasting the decisions of those, like Olx.com, that are bold enough to do what is right. Where reason fails to exist, the decision to act is what matters. Cheers!

     

  • Greg Collier 12:33 pm on November 12, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    Haven’t Had Enough? 

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    Last week a Vallejo woman was kidnapped and sexually assaulted, repeatedly, by two individuals she met via Craigslist. How could this be? Craigslist removed its adult services section weeks ago. You mean there other places to post? Yes. The rest of the Craigslist site is fair game for such postings. The cycle of violence has therefore, and unfortunately, continued.

    Security and safety for online classified sites come from their internal processes, not their external offerings. Sure, eliminating an adult services section from the homepage can reduce illicit behavior, but it won’t stop it. All Craigslist has done by removing their adult section is to make it minutely harder for a john to get a date or a criminal to find a victim. This “safeguard” is nothing more than a roadblock. To provide genuine online protection, Craigslist needed to implement a posting review procedure that would prevent postings involving illegal content from ever making it online.

    Yes, Geebo also removed its personal ads section a couple of months ago. We, however, have never had a problem with such illegal and dangerous behavior being solicited on our site. Our step was a preemptive one in the interest of our community members. Geebo has employed a thorough and rigorous review process for ALL submissions from the beginning. If someone tries to post an “adult service” through our “real estate” section, we know and we stop it before it becomes live. Not Craigers, Bucky, or any other member of their staff has any idea about the contents posted on their site. Their way of finding out is the same as you or I… the news, in the wake of another tragedy.

    This horrific and horrendous crime is another brutal reminder that Craigslist has not done enough. They haven’t even come close. Unfortunately, more rapes, kidnappings, burglaries, and even murders that can be credited to Craigslist’s correctable deficiencies, are more likely to occur than a change in Craigslist practice.

     

  • Greg Collier 4:16 pm on October 24, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    Is it the thought that counts? 

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    Have you ever gotten a present that you weren’t really a fan of? It might have been from a crazy aunt or an awkward co-worker, but you smiled and said thank-you. After all, it is the thought that counts, right? Wrong. Outside of poor gift giving, it really isn’t the thought that counts but the action or inaction that matters.

    Recently, Backpage.com announced that they were suspending some of their adult categories. The keyword is some. The Women for Men, No Strings Attached, and Missed Connections sections have all been made “temporarily unavailable,” but the paid adult services on Backpage.com are still up and thriving. Geebo shares the same question as Sharon Hill in her October 18, 2010 article on AIMGroup.com, “Did they really think people wouldn’t notice that the moneymakers are still up and running – with ad copy and photos that are more blatantly sexual than anything Craigslist allowed in its adult services heyday?” Apparently Backpage.com thinks it really is just the thought that counts. Wrong.

    In the past month, Geebo completely removed our personal ad section as a preemptive and preventative measure. Unlike sites such as Craigslist and Backpage, we never had a problem with our site being utilized for prostitution, escort services, or child trafficking. Since Geebo’s inception a thorough review process of all classifieds submitted for publication has been employed. We never found this to be a novel concept, just a socially responsible business practice. But, even with history on our side, this wasn’t good enough. We vehemently exercise our belief that being socially responsible isn’t about complacency, but about pushing yourself and your company to be better and safer for its community of users. It really isn’t asking that much.

    Backpage.com has said that they are now going to be reviewing ads in their adult categories, increasing staff to assist in this process, implementing barriers to prevent minor’s use, and educating their users about online safety. This is great…but once that newly hired person finds an unacceptable submission, what do they do? Is there a timeline for these new procedures? Are they going to educate their users on how to protect themselves on the very site on which they are using? The “thought” by Backpage.com doesn’t count unless some action, or plan for action, accompanies. As Hill points out, “if Village Voice intent is to clean up its adult services act, the actions taken today by BackPage have fallen far short of goal.”

    Encouraging an “it is the thought that counts” mentality does nothing more than alleviate responsibility and affirm the status quo. This is not the type of behavior that should be celebrated. Instead of supporting companies that do something for their user’s protection, we should be supporting companies that do everything for their user’s protection. It is more than social responsibility. It is about being human.

     

  • Greg Collier 10:51 am on October 8, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    Strength in Solidarity 

    Strength-in-Numbers

    As a classified site owner, the news of the Washington Post’s discontinuance of massage parlor ads came as wonderful news. A few weeks, Geebo, removed its personal ads section. From the inception we had applied a rigorous and thorough screening procedure to prevent postings that promoted illegal activities from appearing on our site. We never felt, however, that we had done enough.

    Geebo, like the Post, is about community. A community looks out for its members. To ensure that we were providing our users with the type of safety, security, and privacy we would want for our own family and friends, we removed the personal ads completely. While we knew we were the first to make such a commitment, we trusted we would not be alone for long. And we were right.

    Thank you, Washington Post for responding meaningfully to your readers concerns. Far too often both people and media listen without actually hearing, considering, or acting. When it comes down to people’s lives, safety, and security, inaction is the ultimate failure.

    When it only takes one to make a difference, there truly is power in numbers.

     

  • Greg Collier 4:24 pm on September 13, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    A Big Day For Change 

    changes

    It is with great pride that Geebo has removed it’s Personal Ads section, effective today. While we are pleased to be the first classified outlet, both digital or print, to make such a move, we want to be clear that this decision isn’t premised on our desire to distinguish ourselves from any other classified service. This is about social responsibility and our concerns about human rights violations occurring on OTHER classified ad sites. Please be assured that Geebo has never encountered any problems or concerns regarding our personals section or any other content. This we attribute to our thorough review process and exceptional staff.

    Currently, Geebo is experiencing more first-time visitors than at any other point on our 10-year history. We are also enjoying endorsements and partnerships with a wide variety of service and support organizations that share our focus on social responsibility. While we are ecstatic over our numbers and our partnerships, we want to be sure that all of these new users are as protected as possible. Removing the personals component is purely a precautionary measure.

    We do want to emphasize that there is nothing wrong with utilizing sites such as Match.com or eHarmony.com in pursuit of love, lust, or friendship. These sites are large, trusted organizations that have done a terrific job monitoring their content. Being as Geebo is much more than a dating site, and a smaller company, we feel that it is in the best interests of our users to focus on what we are best at and most equipped for.

    Thank you for your continued support. As we grow, we will continue to do all we can to provide you with a safe, enjoyable community classifieds experience.

     

    • Lauren Taylor 4:05 pm on September 14, 2010 Permalink

      Thank you Greg for your leadership in the online classifieds community! This is a brave and heroic move.

    • kat 10:44 am on October 14, 2010 Permalink

      Weather you meet someone online, in a bar or in a library,everyone could be a crazed murderer or rapist.The problem with government and the powers that be coercing websites to shut down erotic services and personals are the end to freedom of speech and personal rights.We should be more live and let live like Canada and Europe where prositution and gay marriage are legal.

    • Greg Collier 10:55 am on October 14, 2010 Permalink

      Funny you should mention Canada…
      http://bit.ly/aTznMF

    • Ashley 2:44 pm on October 21, 2010 Permalink

      Kat, I believe that you meant for your comments to reflect your viewpoints as open-minded and tolerant, but placing gay marriage and prostitution in the same breath and using them as frames of reference synonymous with each other was anything but (open-minded and tolerant).

      Have you seen the personals on these other sites (I won’t use any names out of respect for Geebo’s reputation and as to avoid any false slander speculation)? They are filthy. I hold no reservations about making that judgement (or rather observation) because I believe it to be absolutely true, and when prostitution becomes such an easy option, it can and does become an addiction. I’ve seen it first hand and it is a tragedy.

      This isn’t a matter of human rights. If someone so desires to bring prostitution via internet personals into the light as something that falls under the pursuit of happiness, I will be interested in the results. It seems however, that most people who resort to prostitution through these personal sites are doing so out of desperation and it would prove difficult to find enough people that are passionate enough about prostitution to start that movement.

      This is, however, a matter of safety. People have died. Prostitution is an inherently dangerous business, and to claim that we should be more like “Canada and Europe” is not at all relevent to this decision to eliminate the personals section, because in these situations over the internet, there is absolute anonymity and no disclosure of intent. Also, I think it might have served you well to do a brief check into the prostitution policies in “Canada and Europe.” In Canada, the act of prostitution itself is legal, however almost all means are procuring and participating in this act are out-lawed. In Europe, there are eight nations in which prostitution is legal and irregulated. The UK, Sweden, Ireland, France (ironic? Laissez-faire?), Norway and Iceland all hold laws prohibiting prostitution (as well as a large portion of Eastern Europe, mainly from a moral standpoint). And even in the countries where prostitution is legal, there have been so many violent (and often deadly) repercussions that it seems hard to view that as a positive mold.

      Long story short, to lump gay marriage in with prostitution is exactly the kind of backwards thinking that is maintaining gay marriage’s status as illegal in the majority of the United States. Think before you type.

      P.S. The weather is nice, whether you believe it or not.

    • Bill Lema 10:56 am on October 27, 2010 Permalink

      Rock on

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